bruce
June 9, 2021, 2:17pm
21
Also, on org-ref like “follow” capabilities, I only just put it all together in my head this morning:
opened 10:54AM - 09 Jun 21 UTC
enhancement
Once `org-cite` is merged to `org-mode` master ...
The org-cite author descri… bes "follow" processors succinctly as "Follow is what happens when you use `C-c C-o` on a citation."
We can in turn use `embark` to attach additional commands, per @publicimageltd https://github.com/bdarcus/bibtex-actions/pull/137#issuecomment-857456998, for a lightweight emarkified `org-ref`-like experience?
The user would then have different choices for at-point functionality; they could do any mix of the following:
1. use `bibtex-actions-at-point` to open a `bibtex-actions` command filtered to key(s)
2. use `org-open-at-point` to run the `bibtex-completion` functions directly (this may be better than 1?)
3. with 2, also add additional functions, via a keymap, for access with `embark-act`
For 2, we'd just do:
``` elisp
(org-cite-register-processor 'bibtex-actions
:follow #'bibtex-actions-org-cite-follow)
```
... and the user would then do:
``` elisp
(setq org-cite-follow-processor 'bibtex-actions)
```
See also #140, and `org-cite-basic-goto` for an example:
https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/wip-cite-new/lisp/oc-basic.el#L485
cc @ilupin and (since he might be curious) @oantolin
Basically, it should be trivial to create a kind of flexible micro-org-ref-like experience, with a simple org-cite “follow” processor, plus a bit of embark configuration.
Could be really useful, obviously, with ORB, as one could then bind a command to open a note to org-open-at-point.
On a related note, I added an at-point function for org-cite a few days ago:
committed 12:30PM - 07 Jun 21 UTC
Allows bibtex-completions-at-point to work with org-cite.
Will be removed if … and when an equivalent is added to
bibtex-completion.
Co-authored-by: Liu Hui <ilupin@users.noreply.github.com>
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yyy
August 17, 2021, 5:25pm
22
I was looking into the source code and also saw this Org-roam-bibtex for Org-Roam v2 - #15 by mshevchuk
So does Org-roam just needs org-link-plain-re to have a matching pattern for org-cite citations to start indexing them into the database?
No, org-cite citations are not links, they are separate Org elements.
bruce
August 18, 2021, 7:00pm
24
The code should be super easy; I’d expect the most difficult part is just figuring out long-term strategy vis-a-vis exiting org-ref support.
It’s on the radar, though, marked with high-priority:
opened 02:40PM - 27 Jul 21 UTC
1. enhancement
3. Priority: High
2. core
I initially posted this over on the ORB tracker, but realize OR itself just need… s a small enhancement.
https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam-bibtex/issues/191
Org 9.5 will have support for the new `org-cite` module, which is now in master.
This will obsolete much of `org-ref`, and offer state-of-art modular citation support in Org.
John Kitchin has started this project to target it; should likely be on MELPA soon.
https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref-cite
I think all you need to start is to index the new citation-reference elements. See, for example, [org-cite-list-keys](https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/lisp/oc.el#L798).
```elisp
(defun org-cite-list-keys (info)
(delete-dups
(org-element-map (org-cite-list-citations info) 'citation-reference
(lambda (r) (org-element-property :key r))
info)))
```
bruce
August 30, 2021, 12:58pm
25
Just FYI, org-cite support was merged over the weekend for org-roam.
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scotto
November 1, 2021, 5:06am
26
@bruce , now that org finally has native citations (congrats), do you know if there’s a package yet that implements the cleaner looking rendering of the org cites, like the one I asked you about below?
scotto:
…
… blah [[file:energy.bib::Wang13extrmQRpowTranf][Wang & Li 2013: Estimation Extreme Conditional]] blah blah…
is displayed in an emacs org buffer something like this:
… blah Wang & Li 2013: Estimation Extreme Conditional blah blah ,
bruce:
…All of those features were discussed in development, so the design of org-cite will make it all possible, if not necessarily implement it itself.
Practically speaking, I’d expect to see little packages pop up that implement different pieces of functionality on top of this.
bruce
November 1, 2021, 5:43am
27
@scotto - something like this?
He’s been thinking about adding that functionality to the bundled oc-csl processor.
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scotto
November 1, 2021, 12:02pm
28
Yes, that’s it exactly. Thanks.
bruce
November 22, 2021, 6:58pm
29
FYI, org-cite support is now in the Doom Emacs biblio module .
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