# Org-Roam V2 rename file or #+TITLE **URL:** \ **Category:** Requests\ **Created:** [June 16, 2021, 8:45am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691 "2021-06-16T08:45:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jburkhard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/jburkhard/32/252_2.png) [@jburkhard](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/jburkhard)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 8:45am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/1 "2021-06-16T08:45:59Z")
Issue: If I rename the `#+TITLE` tag in a file neither the file-name nor other links are changed. Please refer to the Issue `#1425` for org-roam V1 here: [Renaming title doesn't update links · Issue #1425 · org-roam/org-roam · GitHub](https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam/issues/1425) How is this handled in V2? Thanks in advance for any advice. Regards, Jochen ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:05am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/2 "2021-06-16T09:05:29Z")
I don’t think V2 does anything for title change. The links are ID based, so title change and filename change do not affect links. ---
**Author:** ![jburkhard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/jburkhard/32/252_2.png) [@jburkhard](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/jburkhard)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:55am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/3 "2021-06-16T09:55:14Z")
I do agree (because I couldn’t find anything related to V2). But still, it is very unfortunate because: For example: - My TITLE is Jochen Burkhard Department A - I change it to B - The links still show A in any buffer referring to the title There has to be something to address this won’t you think? Likewise, the file-name still is: jochen\_burkhard\_department\_a That not only looks wrong, it is wrong, I would argue I wonder how you guys handle links to files. P.S. As always, I’m very grateful for your fast and resourceful support. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 10:27am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/4 "2021-06-16T10:27:40Z")
I can’t speak for Jethro and the project, but my sense is that he felt the title/filename change feature in V1 had many issues (high support efforts) and it had always been “brittle” (the term Jethro often uses) despite all the support and patches. Given this, I don’t believe the title/filename change feature will make its way back into V2. You would probably need to think of your own way to manage the title change – filename change is a yet separate function technically speaking. I don’t think it’s easy to come up with a generic solution. For example, it would not make sense to me at all. I can have a description for each ID link totally different to the title and each other: e.g.: 1. `#+Title: Meeting 2021-06-11 - Budget`; `:ID:uuid` 2. Link A `[[id:uuid][Budget on the new marketing material]]` 3. Link B `[[id:uuid][Meeting on budget on 11 June 2021]]` I would not want Emacs to automatically do anything to Link A and Link B. For the filename, I use the ID as the filename (with the `.org` extension), so I don’t have any issue when title changes. * * * One thought. An interactive function that you run per buffer. To change **unconditionally** the description of **every** Org-roam link in the current buffer back to the current title. This would not be a good generic solution but as a custom function, it would be rather straightforward to make. ---
**Author:** ![jburkhard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/jburkhard/32/252_2.png) [@jburkhard](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/jburkhard)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 11:43am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/5 "2021-06-16T11:43:29Z")
Agreed in regard to the Link / File handling. 3 Questions, though: 1. None of your links in the example is a file-link, so how is this done if the filename is id:uuid and do I have to type the link-name then? and 2. Is there a safe and manageable way to change my 700 filenames to [id.org](http://id.org)? 3. Your #+TITEL looks as if the ID and uuid are tags, why is that and the ID already is in the :PROPERTIES: - Is there any useful idea behind that? Thanks again, dear comrade, for your feedback, J. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/6 "2021-06-16T12:12:38Z")
Sure. 1. On V2, file-links are not recognised as nodes, so no backlinks. I don’t use file-links within Org-roam any more. 2. Is this mass file re-naming? Have a backup of all the 700 files and have a script to do mass re-naming. I see no issue in principle. I don’t think I have such script myself, though. 3. No that’s not how my Org files are written; just an example for the bullet points. It should be like this (a real example): ```auto :properties: :id: 2021-04-13T110141 :category: Meeting :modified: 2021-06-16T131201 :end: #+title: Meeting: Team Meeting ``` ---
**Author:** ![jburkhard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/jburkhard/32/252_2.png) [@jburkhard](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/jburkhard)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/7 "2021-06-16T13:44:31Z")
Thanks again for your insights. Helped me a lot with understanding V2 better. What I try to do now is: - No more file-links - Try to link to my dailies via TITLE node (because I just need that very often) 2 Questions - again 😉 1. Would you advise using ROAM\_TAGS ROAM\_ALIAS vs. FILETAGS (at all or what you propose) 2. How are filenames done with [Id.org](http://Id.org) (Can’t find anything and barely understand what {slug} does - maybe TITLE text but not id, right?) ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/8 "2021-06-16T16:28:50Z")
I really don’t have any recommendations for tags in general. Very light use on my end. I don’t user Org-agenda (I tried, but I cannot keep using it; I guess it’s not my thing), so I don’t use tags very much (I don’t know if I even have any in my Org-roam – it does not really matter to me). I don’t believe ROAM\_TAGS are used on V2. Have a look at the current version of V2 [documentation on tags](https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam/blob/v2/doc/org-roam.org). It’s merged with the standard Org Mode’s tag system. So it’s either filetags or tags on headlines. I think this also mentioned in the wiki (Hitchhiker’s Rough Guide to V2). I use filetags only as a category. One category per file out of 4 candidates. I have this for work files. The key for me is whether or not I squeezed my brain to come up with the idea in the note in qusetion (creation), or borrowed someone else’s work (reference). Index and meetings should be self-explanatory. ```auto ("w" "work" plain "%?" :if-new (file+head "work/%<%Y-%m-%dT%H%M%S>__%(substring(my/insert-category) 0 1).org" ":properties:\n:id: %<%Y-%m-%dT%H%M%S>\n:modified: <>\n:end:\n#+title: ${title}\n#+filetags: %(downcase (my/insert-category))\n") :unnarrowed t) (defun my/insert-category () (completing-read "Category: " '("Creation" "Reference" "Index" "Meeting"))) ``` So my work files look like this: `2021-01-26T150000__M.org`. The first letter of the category is purely for filtering purpose in Dired or Windows Explorer (filesystem) – if I want to look at only one of the categories, I can look for files with `__M` or whatever. Not sure if it is useful for other people. Having dates in front of filenames is great for sorting in chronological order. I don’t use aliases – also have look at the documentation. It should be ROAM\_ALIASES – plural now, I think. ---
**Author:** ![jburkhard](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/jburkhard/32/252_2.png) [@jburkhard](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/jburkhard)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/9 "2021-06-16T19:47:47Z")
I read the docu and was convinced - as you said - that ROAM\_TAGS are no longer a thing. But then I saw in the DOOM Org-Roam V2 package updates some new features reg. ROAM\_TAGS. Anyway thanks again for your continued support and your stellar work on your packages and esp. your thoughts about Dendron. It’s always a pleasure to follow along what u r up to. Have a great day, Jochen ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/10 "2021-06-16T21:35:37Z")
Thanks 🙏 Just to be sure… Dendron is not my contribution. Please credit the suthor @spicy for his awesome work 🚀 ---
**Author:** ![real-or-random](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/real-or-random/32/514_2.png) [@real-or-random](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/real-or-random)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/org-roam-v2-rename-file-or-title/1691/11 "2022-03-24T09:59:08Z")
Note: This is essentially the same topic as [Does renaming title no longer renames the filename?](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/does-renaming-title-no-longer-renames-the-filename/2018)