# Make properties drawer in org-id-store-link lowercase **URL:** \ **Category:** Troubleshooting\ **Created:** [May 5, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799 "2025-05-05T15:20:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![orgroamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@orgroamer](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/orgroamer)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/1 "2025-05-05T15:20:22Z")
I would like the properties drawer generated by `org-id-store-link` to be lowercase, so `:properties:` rather than `:PROPERTIES:` etc. I looked at the documentation for `org-id-store-link`, but I cannot find a way to do this. I searched for relevant variables too, but did not find any. I think this means I have to modify the function itself, but how would I actually do this? Unless I’ve missed a relevant variable. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/2 "2025-05-05T20:39:34Z")
I believe it’s done by function `org-insert-property-drawer`. The uppercase “PROPERTIES” and “END” are hardcoded. The docstring says “Do nothing if the drawer already exists.” so you have three options. 1. Modify the function to hardcode lowercase 2. Advice to change “PROPERTIES” and “END” to lowercase `:after` (probably after `org-id-store-link` to narrow the scope of advice 3. Advice `org-insert-property-drawer` to add property before… (the scope may be too big…) I’d lean to Option #2 above, but #1 is easy to implement – and accept the fact you’d need to look after the monitor the code every time you upgrade Org. **EDIT and P.S.** I don’t publish Org-roam notes directly, so I cannot respond to the other query of yours about export. ---
**Author:** ![orgroamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@orgroamer](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/orgroamer)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/3 "2025-05-09T14:27:59Z")
Thank you, I’d lean towards option 2 as well. Where would I change this? I assume in my `use-package org`’s `:config`, and I’d use `cl-defmethod` with `:around`. I did the same thing for overriding node titles. What do you mean by “scope of advice”? ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/4 "2025-05-09T17:38:08Z")
> [@orgroamer](#): > > my `use-package org`’s `:config` Yes, it’s a good place. > [@orgroamer](#): > > I’d use `cl-defmethod` with `:around` No, not `cl-defmethod`. I’d use `add-advice` and `:after` combinator. Refer to `(info "(elisp)Advising Functions")` – you should be able to evaluate this expression to get to the Info page. `org-id-store-link` is a function so I don’t think `cl-defmethod` will work (let me know if I am mistaken). Edit: it should be `advice-add` (function) not `add-advice`. ---
**Author:** ![orgroamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@orgroamer](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/orgroamer)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/5 "2025-05-09T18:23:11Z")
OK, I’ll look at that page. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/6 "2025-05-09T20:53:03Z")
> [@orgroamer](#): > > What do you mean by “scope of advice”? Advising a function should be done with a caution because it influences any part of Emacs that use the same original function. The more localized the original function, the less chance you inadvertently introduce an unintended problem — a bug by your custom code. This is what I was trying to point to by “scope of advice”. `org-id-store-link` is likely to be more localized than `org-insert-property-drawer`, thus safer to advise — I could be wrong but this is what I was going for. ---
**Author:** ![orgroamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@orgroamer](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/orgroamer)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/7 "2025-05-10T02:05:43Z")
I get it now. I agree, the scope of `org-id-store-link` seems smaller. But I do want to have lowercase properties drawer everywhere, so it does seem to make sense to modify the one with broadest scope of advice. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 7:32am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/8 "2025-05-10T07:32:47Z")
I am not sure if using lowercase for `:PROPERTIES:` and `:END:` is a good idea – it seems that Org assumes they are uppercase by the looks of the function. It may just work fine, but some internal search / regexp code may be case-sensitive and potentially behave unexpectedly. An alternative idea may be hiding or prettifying these syntactic elements. As an example, see [this post of mine](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/turn-off-the-bright-meta/2174/6) and the thread around it. This is just a suggestion. Lowercasing might just work fine. But if your intent is purely for aesthetics, then the suggestion above might save some troubles long term. **Edit**. In the post I linked, I said “Use lower case for properties meta data” – I no longer do it and I have simplified my setup. Today I use `org-modern` to simplify the UI and my setup for Org mode. ---
**Author:** ![orgroamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/54ee81/32.png) [@orgroamer](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/orgroamer)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 10:40am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/make-properties-drawer-in-org-id-store-link-lowercase/3799/9 "2025-05-10T10:40:35Z")
I use lowercase for file-level properties drawer and have never run into issues, it could work differently for headers but so far no issues with that either. Yes it’s for aesthetics. That post of yours is helpful anyway, I wanted to know how to hide all those elements anyway.