# Help for installation of org roam in windows **URL:** \ **Category:** Troubleshooting\ **Created:** [May 26, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192 "2020-05-26T01:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ianian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@ianian](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/ianian)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/1 "2020-05-26T01:34:20Z")
I use Emacs only for org-mode for several years. But I still think I am just a newbie for Emacs. First, please allow me to describe my installtion process. My computer using Windows 10. 1. I installed the package with melpha. 2. I installed the emacs-sqlite3 package, downloaded the sqlite-tools and configured the path. 3. I modified the org-roam-db.el as [https://org-roam.readthedocs.io/en/master/installation/](https://org-roam.readthedocs.io/en/master/installation/) says. 4. I created the org-roam file directory, and put the following line `(setq org-roam-directory "~/org-roam")` in the config. 5. I installed the graphiz and configure the path. 6. `M-x org-roam-db-build-cache` OK. The `org-roam.db` was sucessfully created. 7. I add `(add-hook 'after-init-hook 'org-roam-mode)` in the config and restart Emacs # **The problem:** 1. The start up process was slower than before. 2. After start up there is message in the mini buffer: `Query timeout error: "Query timed out", 30` 3. `C-x b` prompt `let*: Symbol’s function definition is void: destructuring-bind`, which I was binded to `switch-to-buffer` ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/2 "2020-05-26T14:59:59Z")
Hi @ianian, I would not claim to be an expert, but I have been using `org-roam` on Windows 10 myself, so let me try. I invite others to jump in where my attempt falls short. I think Problem 1 is a bit expected, and Problems 1 and 2 in your case seem to be related. I would think Problem 3 is a separate issue, and may not be directly caused by `org-roam` or your implementation of `emacs-sqlite3`. For 1. How slow? Perhaps your Emacs won’t launch and return control back to you until you see the “Query timeout error” message? (30 seconds or more?). The reason I say Problem 1 is expected is that, I think, `org-roam` tries to launch during the Emacs launch process because of your `after-init-hook` setting. As part of the starting process, `org-roam` tries to see if there is any update in your `org-roam-directory` that updates your dababase `org-roam.db`. I believe how long this startup process takes depends mostly on the number of updated note files. But if the udpates are none or minimal (let’s say, you might have changed one or two org files when `org-roam` was off), then this should not feel like taking too long (my experience confirms this). And you should see a message like this: `(org-roam) files: 0, links: 0, tags: 0, titles: 0, refs: 0, deleted: 0`. If this takes too long, then it is probably because of your Problem 2. For 2… This needs a bit more analysis. I tend to use `view-echo-area-message` to see more messages around the timeout error message you get. I hope others may give us a better way to get you more information. [Like this method.](https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam/issues/682#issuecomment-632953404). - Do you see any more information around the timeout error message? - How big (in terms of kb or mb) of your database (via Explorer)? - After the timeout error message, can you open `org-roam-buffer` for one of your org file, and see the backlinks properly shown? - Can you change the org file, and see the backlink properly updated (in some cases, saving individual files works, but `org-roam-db-build-cache` does not). - Can you run `org-roam-db-build-cache` manually, and successfully? These would be the questions I would be asking myself if I saw the same timeout message (which I have seen a couple of times; but most of the times, I could just ignore it). For 3… This is weird. I suspect it may not be related to `org-roam`. Do you see the list of buffers when you do C-x b, or you just immediately get the `let*: Symbol's function` message? Is there any location in your configuration where you might have bound `C-x b` to a command other than `switch-to-buffer`? ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/3 "2020-05-26T20:44:08Z")
Also, as a side note: Jethro and some of community members are working to make the use of `emacs-sqlite3` as the standard, mainly to make it easy for Windows users to start with `org-roam`. I don’t think this change will influence the issues you currently have. But for the long-run, we won’t have to manually maintain our “hack” on our own. I think it will be a change we can embrace as Windows users, when this goes through to the next update. See [https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam/pull/701](https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam/pull/701) for detail, if you are interested. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ianian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@ianian](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/ianian)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/4 "2020-05-27T01:57:08Z")
Thank you @nobiot for your detailed reply. Let me answer the questions one by one. ### 1. How slow? Now the start up time is about 38 seconds. Before is about 15-20 seconds. The message is: `(org-roam) files: 0, links: 0, tags: 0, titles: 0, refs: 0, deleted: 0` ### 2. More messages for the echo area message > Loading cua-base…done > Loading d:/XXXX/config.el (source)… > org-super-agenda-mode enabled. > Loading d:/XXXX/config.el (source)…done > Loaded d:/XXXX/config.el > (org-roam) files: 0, links: 0, tags: 0, titles: 0, refs: 0, deleted: 0 > Query timeout error: “Query timed out”, 30 #### 2.0.1 The result of `(let ((debug-on-error t)...` command. This command is only sucessful at the first time I run it, the minibuffer retures: > (org-roam) files: 3, links: 1, tags: 0, titles: 3, refs: 0, deleted: 0 If I run it again, it returns > Debugger entered–Lisp error: (file-error “Removing old name” “Permission denied” “d:XXX/org-roam.db”) > #(“d:XXX/org-roam.db”) > apply(# “d:XXX/org-roam.db”) > delete-file(“d:XXX/org-roam.db”) > (progn (delete-file (org-roam-db–get))) > (if force (progn (delete-file (org-roam-db–get)))) > org-roam-db-build-cache(t) > (let ((debug-on-error t) (org-roam-list-files-commands nil)) (org-roam-db-build-cache t)) > eval-buffer() ; Reading at buffer position 98 > funcall-interactively(eval-buffer) > call-interactively(eval-buffer record nil) > command-execute(eval-buffer record) > #f(compiled-function (cmd) #\)(“eval-buffer”) > ivy-call() > ivy-read("M-x " [rng-ipattern-after connection-failed ansi-color-apply-overlay-face epg-context-signers locals 0 rng-what-schema message-required-headers denied tls-format-message epg–status-VALIDSIG org-publish–store-crossrefs bbdb-current-record 0 org-emphasis-regexp-components mml-secure-smime-sign-with-sender url-cookie-multiple-line url-scheme-registry gnus-agent-group-covered-p nnmail-fix-eudora-headers gujr mixal gnus-summary-recenter avl-tree–stack-store–cmacro cl-print–preprocess matched-string tls-success :examined -some? bibtex-SuppCollection 0 post-deadline cl–struct-epg-signature-p ! " f-directory? message-kill-actions nnheader-translate-file-chars scale ' nnoo-import-1 gnus-summary-catchup-from-here :contents rx-trans-forms request-list elfeed-search-date-face not-at-beginning-of-line helm expired message-send-mail-function …] :predicate commandp :require-match t :history counsel-M-x-history :action #f(compiled-function (cmd) #\) :sort t :keymap (keymap (67108908 . counsel–info-lookup-symbol) (67108910 . counsel-find-symbol)) :initial-input nil :caller counsel-M-x) > counsel-M-x() > funcall-interactively(counsel-M-x) > call-interactively(counsel-M-x nil nil) > command-execute(counsel-M-x) ### 2.1 Do you see any more information around the timeout error message? Yes. The result is as above in answer 2. ### 2.2 How big (in terms of kb or mb) of your database (via Explorer)? 36kb (36,864 bytes) ### 2.3 After the timeout error message, can you open `org-roam-buffer` for one of your org file, and see the backlinks properly shown? Yes, the backlinks properly shown. ### 2.4 Can you change the org file, and see the backlink properly updated Yes, I can change the org file, and the backlink properly updated. ### 2.5 Can you run `org-roam-db-build-cache` manually, and successfully? The result is strange. The first time I run `org-roam-db-build-cache`. The mini-buffer reture `apply: Selecting deleted buffer` . And I run `org-roam-db-build-cache` again. It build correctly and return: `(org-roam) files: 0, links: 0, tags: 0, titles: 0, refs: 0, deleted: 0` And if I run `org-roam-db-build-cache` again(third time), still: `apply: Selecting deleted buffer` . The fourth time: `(org-roam) files: 0, links: 0, tags: 0, titles: 0, refs: 0, deleted: 0` ## 3 The `C-x b` problem For now I also think it’s a seperate problem. Now I bind it to `counsel-ibffer`. It works. ### 3.1 Do you see the list of buffers when you do C-x b, or you just immediately get the `let*: Symbol's function` message? No, I didn’t see the list of the buffer. It immediately get the message. ### 3.2 Is there any location in your configuration where you might have bound `C-x b` to a command other than `switch-to-buffer` ? No I have no config for bounding `C-x b` to `switch-to-buffer`. But when I `M-x switch-to-buffer`, in the minibuffer It shown the key was binded and It works for me before. Even if I bound `C-x b` to `switch-to-buffer`in the config. It still returns the error message. But the `M-x switch-to-buffer` works ok. ## 4 New problems after enable the roam mode. ### 4.1 The `scratch` buffer problem. After I start the Emacs and switch to the scratch buffer. The major mode is “Fumdamental” not “emacs lisp mode”. And the whole buffer is empty. There were 2 lines of commented description at the top of the buffer. But now it’s gone. ### 4.2 The buffer list problem Before if I opend 4 buffers, I could switch to them. The numbers of active buffers seems has no limit, even after restart the Emacs. But now every time I restart Emacs, there will be only 2 active buffers in the buffer list. Thank you again for your time. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/5 "2020-05-28T17:54:21Z")
Hi @ianian, Let’s focus on what you would really like to resolve. You might see problems 3 and 4 important for your day-to-day Emacs life (🙂), but shall we look at `org-roam` since that’s what connects us here, isn’t it? To be frank, I don’t think 3 and 4 are related to `org-roam` (I can be wrong, so I’ll keep mind open here). For slow launch, let’s see if we can do something about it after perhaps fixing what looks to be a bit more grave issue of problem 2. And… for problem 2, you may not like to hear this, but perhaps I’d suggest that you start again with a clean(er) slate. `org-roam` is now officially based on `emacsql-sqlite3`. See the melpa package list (image below) – this is from 2020-05-28, today in my time zone. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/orgroam/original/1X/9a16a3100e62716a4ecf42b51ae4a716d6e9f787.png) I don’t use melpa, but I believe you can use the new version available there to override the hack you did for `sqlite3` (I mean, if you can hack your way in the code in Emacs, then I don’t think you qualify as a newbie, really 😉). Looking at the errors you reported, I think your `org-roam` is mostly working, at least in a very similar way to mine. The only thing to solve looks to be the “Permission denied” error in 2.0.1. I have seen it a couple of times in my set up, and every time, it was my coding error of my own plugin for `org-roam`. I tend to clear the db (`org-roam-db--clear`) or close Emacs and delete the db file manually. And fix my code, and rebuild the db. It’s hard to see what causes your problem (e.g. is there anything special about your D: drive? Why D: instead of C:? Do you really have full admin authorization there? etc. etc.). By using the melpa version, you can eliminate the possibility that your hack is the cause. That will be a cleaner starting point for further analysis. The “strange” result in 2.5 is something I have always had. I have learnt to live with it now. Everything I want to work has been working with this issue. So for me, it’s low priority. It’s relieving to see that another Windows user also has the same issue. It may be Windows specific. I might dig deeper to see if I can resolve it, some day. But for now, I would like to use `org-roam` to create more meaningful notes, rather than fix the tool. ---
**Author:** ![ianian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@ianian](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/ianian)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/7 "2020-06-02T11:47:48Z")
Thank you again for your reply. I think I will keep on using org-roam with these problem, and wait the for the next stable release. ---
**Author:** ![Klord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@Klord](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/Klord)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/8 "2020-06-26T10:37:05Z")
I’m encountering a similar issue on Windows 10. I just updated all MELPA packages, cleared the database (`org-roam-db--clear`) and restarted. Loading time was 2 min 30 seconds (with timer). Loading ends with the message: `Query timeout error: "Query timed out", 30`. Only one buffer is restarted, despite the fact that I activated `desktop-save-mode`. Without `org-roam`, loading time was about 30s. I have always had the query timeout and failure of the desktop-restore with `org-roam`; however, the loading time has recently increased dramatically (from ~55 seconds to the current 2min30) – I suspect, from a MELPA update. Like the original poster, my database is small, and I only have ~ 20 files in org-roam. During the installation process, I encountered the error `org-roam cannot find executable sqlite3`, which I solved by downloading [this](https://www.sqlite.org/download.html) binary of SQLite for Windows and putting it in a PATH-referenced folder. I’m happy to try any suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/9 "2020-06-26T11:29:27Z")
Rebuilding the database always takes much longer than doing a smaller incremental update. Do you experience the long-time loading time after the initial db build? I don’t use desktop-save-mode, but one suggestion to improve experience of loading might be to move the loading of `org-roam` to after loading of `desktop-save-mode`. If you followed the documentation, you’d have `add-hook ‘after-init-hook ‘org-roam-mode` to specify when Org-roam should be loaded. You can move this to another hook more appropriate for your loading sequence (perhaps after desktop-save-mode). Is there a hook like `after-desktop-save-mode-hook` or something like that? ---
**Author:** ![Klord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@Klord](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/Klord)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/10 "2020-06-26T13:43:58Z")
Thank you for your help! I experience the long-time loading each time I start Emacs. I just re-did the test now, without re-building the database, and moving `(desktop-save-mode 1)` to last in my `init.el`. The loading seems to occur normally up to around 30 s, then Emacs lags with an empty buffer, and a minibuffer set to: `(org-roam) files: 0, headlines: 0, links: 0, tags: 0, titles: 0, refs: 0, deleted: 0`) It lags for 1 m 30 s, and then, 2 minutes after having been launched, resumes the loading of just one buffer, becomes usable, and displays this in the minibuffer: `Query timeout error: "Query timed out", 30` There is no hook to `after-desktop-save-mode-hook` or anything similar. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/11 "2020-06-26T15:28:39Z")
Hope you can resolve your issue soon, but I’m not sure how much of help I can be. I do not have the same issue as you do. One thing I could suggest is to isolate the Org-roam issue from others. Comment out your `(add-hook)` where you load org-roam-mode. ```auto ;(add-hook 'after-init-hook 'org-roam-mode) ``` See how my Emacs starts up in this video clip below. The total length is about 38 seconds; 21 seconds or so are used to just start Emacs. I then manually call `org-roam-mode`, which finishes almost instantaneously (I have about 5 files for this). > **[2020-06-26\_17-02-29.mp4 (video)](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KOmQaSaPEcJaczIr_BAWshVamfEyhh3w/view?usp=sharing)** > > Google Drive file. My [.emacs](https://github.com/nobiot/Zero-to-Emacs-and-Org-roam/blob/master/.emacs-part2) for this video is located in my GitHub repo; I just commented out the part where org-roam is loaded at start up as above. This config is used only for writing [Org-roam guide](https://github.com/nobiot/Zero-to-Emacs-and-Org-roam). For my usual one, I delay loading of Org-roam until I manually call it. You might like to load up both desktop and org-roam (and others) at startup, but maybe some sort of selective loading is one way you might like to consider… If the timeout issue still persists, then getting a backtrace would help the project look at the problem. I’ve written up [a quick guide here](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/beginners-guide-to-troubleshooting-emacs-problems-an-org-roam-edition/224) – see section 6. Call `M-x toggle-debug-on-error` manually before you call org-roam. You will get a backtrace if you hit the error. ---
**Author:** ![Klord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@Klord](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/Klord)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/12 "2020-06-27T16:29:36Z")
Thanks a lot for your help. I followed your advice and did some tests. Here are the results: - It’s `(desktop-save-mode 1)` which creates the issue. If I remove it, everything works fine. - Starting `org-roam-mode` manually or as a hook to `after-init` makes it complete in a few seconds. - Having `desktop-save-mode` set to 1 creates the issue only if at least one buffer has to be restored. If I clear the desktop (`M-x` `desktop-clear`) and immediately switch off Emacs, it restarts normally. If I open init.el in the buffer, exit Emacs, and then re-open it, I have the Query Timeout error and the veryyyy long hang. To be more specific, I can re-create the problem with this minimal `init.el`: ```auto (require 'package) (add-to-list 'package-archives (cons "melpa" "https://melpa.org/packages/") t) (package-initialize) (require 'use-package) (use-package org-roam :hook (after-init . org-roam-mode) :custom (org-roam-directory "~/org/org-roam") (org-roam-completion-system 'helm) :bind (:map org-roam-mode-map (("C-c n l" . org-roam) ("C-c n f" . org-roam-find-file) ("C-c n g" . org-roam-graph-show)) :map org-mode-map (("C-c n i" . org-roam-insert)))) (desktop-save-mode 1) ``` ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/13 "2020-06-27T20:44:09Z")
… So it’s an issue of decktop-mode? Does this issue interact with Org-roam. In other words, does this issue happens only when combined with Org-roam? If so… Maybe putting `(desktop-save-mode 1)` before (`use-package org-roam` … Would that change anything? I don’t use desktop-mode, so my idea is running out. An extreme alternative might be not to use desktop-mode. Or perhaps you could live with the problem, and enable Org-roam later manually or with a hook to Org-mode, etc.? I hope you can find your own solution to achieve a good-enough balance between convenience and frustration… ---
**Author:** ![Klord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@Klord](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/Klord)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/14 "2020-06-28T09:33:34Z")
No, as you guessed, it’s an issue of `org-roam`, which appears when I use it with `desktop-save-mode`. It happens when Emacs tries to restore buffers into which org-roam was activated. I would be interested in knowing if others can replicate the problem, or if it’s just me. For the time being, I will stop using `desktop-save-mode` and, if needed, call it manually with `desktop-save` and `desktop-clear` (curiously, both work). ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/15 "2020-06-28T13:04:10Z")
Just one last thing… I tried desktop-save-mode by adding `(desktop-save-mode 1)` at the end of my init file. I do get similar error, but I am not sure I am doing it the way you do – I don’t know how this mode should work and get confused where I should save the desktop file. One thing that you might like to do is to put `desktop-save-mode` in `after-init-hook` _after_ Org-roam. Like this: `(add-hook 'after-init-hook 'desktop-save-mode)` Or with using `use-package`, perhaps like this (?) ```auto (use-package org-roam ... all the code for org-roam) (use-package desktop-save-mode :hook (after-init . desktop-save-mode) ... other config ...) ``` Or maybe yon can look to use the `after` option (directive?) to make it explicit to load desktop-save-mode after org-roam. This way, at least I could avoid the long loading time. I suspect one of the reasons why you have the loading issue is, by putting `(desktop-save-mode 1)` regardless of where in init file it is, you are enabling destop-save-mode _before_ org-mode has been enabled. This is because it looks like you are enabling org-roam-mode _after_ init file has been loaded in this `(after-init . org-roam-mode)`. ---
**Author:** ![ianian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@ianian](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/ianian)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/16 "2020-06-29T01:05:11Z")
Thank you for solving my problem! I don’t know what leads you to get the source of the problem : `desktop-save-move` ! I disable the `desktop-save-move`. My emacs start up speed back to normal, and the `Query timeout error: “Query timed out”, 30` message gone. There comes a new error about start-up screen. And I solved it by `(setq inhibit-splash-screen t)` It also solved my scratch buffer problem! Now the only error is `Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Unknown rx form ‘anychar’")`. This error came out after I upgrade the org-roam 1.2.0. I saw some user also has this problem from a previous post. I will stay with it and waiting for the new upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:12am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/17 "2020-06-29T06:12:36Z")
@ianian, it looks like the issue was fixed [16 days ago](https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam/commit/0d5efe1c14d9207f259f530f2725fdcc3bef481e). Try upgrading Org-roam if you haven’t since before that. ---
**Author:** ![Klord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@Klord](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/Klord)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/18 "2020-06-29T07:15:29Z")
@nobiot: Thank you, you are being very resourceful. Unfortunately your suggestions do not work. I tried all combinations and others (note that the syntax for `use-package` is `desktop` and not `desktop-save-mode`), to no avail. It seems that desktop-save-mode needs to be called directly after init (as per [https://github.com/jwiegley/use-package/issues/296](https://github.com/jwiegley/use-package/issues/296)), so it cannot be called after `org-roam`. @ianian: I’m happy to see we at least identified where the issue comes from, and that removing `desktop-save-mode` solves it for you too! ---
**Author:** ![nobiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/nobiot/32/159_2.png) [@nobiot](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/nobiot)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/19 "2020-06-29T18:37:43Z")
Yes… I think I am able to reproduce your issue. I did a couple of things, but I’m afraid this is beyond me. As a record, I’ve written some notes in [Gist](https://gist.github.com/nobiot/079c3621ab65efc0d82eb516f6ccc4ac). I believe this is Windows only issue (not verified yet), and probably beyond Org-roam. I am suspecting this is Windows specific in relation to `emacsql`, or `emacsql-sqlite`, but not entirely sure. ---
**Author:** ![ianian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/77aa72/32.png) [@ianian](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/ianian)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/20 "2020-06-30T02:38:28Z")
The “any char” issue was fixed after the release of 1.2.0 version. I used the melpha stable. I could wait for the next stable. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cookyzed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/org-roam.discourse.group/cookyzed/32/362_2.png) [@cookyzed](https://org-roam.discourse.group/u/cookyzed)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192/21 "2020-08-21T03:56:48Z")
I had the 2nd issue on both of my two Windows 10 computers after adding org-roam to Emacs: > After start up there is message in the mini buffer: `Query timeout error: "Query timed out", 30` and I’m not enabling `desktop-save-mode` in my configuration. I got it fixed after removing the line that enables org-roam-mode under `custom-set-variables`: ```elisp (custom-set-variables ;; '(org-roam-mode t nil (org-roam)) ;; <--- comments out or remove via the `customize` command ) ``` I have no idea why that line was added automatically. Here is part of my org-roam related configuration using `use-package`: ```elisp (use-package org-roam :hook (after-init . org-roam-mode) :custom (org-roam-directory "d:/sync/wiki/")) ``` Anyway, removing that line fixes the issue for me, and org-roam related functionality works just fine. P.S. I have some org files under the org-roam-directory, but every time it shows 0 files on startup: > (org-roam) files: Δ0, headlines: Δ0, links: Δ0, tags: Δ0, titles: Δ0, refs: Δ0, deleted: Δ0 Still, everything works fine like `org-roam-find-file`. * * * The following are something I found while investigating the issue, hope it helps fix the “real” issue. After searching for the error message, I think it came from the [**emacsql** package](https://github.com/skeeto/emacsql/blob/3.0.0/emacsql.el#L163): ```emacslisp (cl-defmethod emacsql-wait ((connection emacsql-connection) &optional timeout) "Block until CONNECTION is waiting for further input." (let* ((real-timeout (or timeout emacsql-global-timeout)) (end (when real-timeout (+ (float-time) real-timeout)))) (while (and (or (null real-timeout) (< (float-time) end)) (not (emacsql-waiting-p connection))) (save-match-data (accept-process-output (emacsql-process connection) real-timeout))) (unless (emacsql-waiting-p connection) (signal 'emacsql-timeout (list "Query timed out" real-timeout))))) ;; <---- here ``` The [`org-roam-db-build-cache` function](https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam/blob/2081e1268ad57dfb94171d1a99e8f13126fbdaa5/org-roam-db.el#L481) (which should be the first function getting `emacsql-wait` called on startup) completed normally as it prints the `(org-roam) files: Δ0, headlines: Δ0 ...` message. I think the `Query timeout error: "Query timed out", 30` issue (causing delay of 30 seconds) happens when loading the `*scratch*` buffer, as the buffer is empty on startup. But before adding and enabling org-roam, or after fixing the issue by removing that line under `custom-set-variables`, the `*scratch*` buffer would have two lines of comments: > ;; This buffer is for text that is not saved, and for Lisp evaluation. > ;; To create a file, visit it with and enter text in its buffer. [Next page](https://org-roam.discourse.group/t/help-for-installation-of-org-roam-in-windows/192.md?page=2)